DH: Yeah, its really important that I wear my, that the influences are worn on the surface of the work. They don’t shy away from the influences. Influences are vital. And I think if theres enough influences, even if they are quite tight or a specific area, something new can come from that. It can move beyond its influences.
LG: Its like this conversation we were having about you going to see Martin Creed and me going to see Gabriel Orozco.
DH: He, he he yeah!
LG: And us both thinking ‘oh no!’, what do we do? I saw a few pieces that looked a bit like what I was doing, you know and at first your initial reaction is ‘oh no’, a million things pass through your mind and one of them is ‘now I cant do that any more’, which is, you know, silly. ‘People are going to think Ive ripped him off!’, but mainly my fear, the reason I said ‘oh no’ is because I really liked what I saw so much and I was scared that I’d have to copy this now, I cant ignore it, and one reaction ive had to that is to get it out of my system and just get some paints out and do it. Not copy it but do the thing I was afraid of having seen that work.
Taken from a conversation between myself and Dale Holmes. For more please go to the Bloc Projects website.. and follow the links to Discourse.
It is decided… with no retractions… the text ‘piece’ will be based on INSTINCT as a starting point. It relates to the accompanying images in two ways, first in its relationship to animals and, more importantly, its relationship to the making process.
I’ll make references to John Berger’s ‘Why look at Animals?’ and Mary Midgley’s ‘Beast and Man’. also possibly Magic, Marcel Mauss, and of course Surrealism- Objective Chance- Don’t forget De Chirico ‘Presentiment’.
1,000 words. It should be useful for my research project. Relationship between man and nature. Marx- dialectical.
What is the purpose of a supplementary text? Who is it for? What does it add that isnt there already? What do you need to know?
I made these images a year ago. By looking at them now and writing the thoughts I have about them down I guess I’m adding hindsight. I was originally going to go right back to the point of creation and re-create the dialogue that took place within myself as I made the drawings, describe the ‘conflict born out of contingency and control’, but that would be unfair. Its not that it would de-mystify the creative process, I don’t mind doing that, I just don’t think its fair to spoil your experience of looking and thinking for yourself. Its also a bit boring.
I worry about giving too much information, and yet, what can i write about these drawings that doesn’t inform or influence in some way?
The pages were torn from a colouring-in book. Its good to see them all layed out and to play with the ordering. It still seems right to present them back in book form, as illustrations for a story perhaps..
childhood play fantasy natural world fake forgery manipulation illusion line form block space plane surface game abstraction real(ity) original mass produced fill in between the lines – colour in. Choose your own adventure.
Sit down and write for 30 mins. No stopping, editing or correcting.
The fact is, an adult sat down with a child’s colouring in book. Why- i can’t imagine you are too different… why would you do it? Are you nostalgic?
What are colouring books for? Colouring in between pre-drawn lines. the difficult part is done, the decisions have been made. it is a distraction, an activity. We don’t learn anything new about the subject matter presented, we are only close to it for a while. We can think about those lions a little bit but the contact is really with the page, the pen, the lines and the empty spaces. We explore the contours of knowledge.. turn the page and you are presented with a new scene, a new set of problems. I prefer it to turning to a blank page. the clean slate is an alien concept, we all come with a set of images printed on.
Look and write-reflect. Afterwords… like T.J. Clarke on Poussin.
Do any of the animals in these drawings look back at the viewer?
Yes. Show the Paradise image last. Also- the two composer Obituaries. Print text…the images are slightly bigger than A4…